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PříspěvekZaslal: st říjen 21, 2009 10:39 pm    Předmět: Posilovanie a diabetes 1.typu? Citovat

Mam 16r. , 64kg a cukrovku 1.typu mam uz 13r.
No hladal som na interenete nejake inforamcie ohladom tejto problematiky nanrazil som na toto forum , velmi ma to zaujalo a kedze moja daktorka sa nezmoze na nic ine ako predpis liekov tak som sa rozhodol opýtať tu:

Je to vôbec možné?
Kulturisti jedia bielkoviny približne 2-2,5g na kg pozadovanej hmotnosti (cize pri hmotnosti 75kg ,kt by som chcel dosiahnuť by som musel denne zjesť 150-180g bielkovin a v treningovy den este k tomuto mnozstu priratáme 30g pred a po treningu vo forme proteinoveho kotailu , samozrejme aj cez netreningove dni bo som takto prijmal určitú časť bielkovin , keďže nie je možné takéto množstvo bielkovín získať z potravy. Malo by to nejaky vplýv na organizmus a cukrovku ako taku? Viem že v konečnom dôsledku by sa mali bielkoviny premeniť na cukor ale u kulturistov by sa nemali podielať na stavbe svalov?

Ďalším problémom je energia počas treningu ,ktorú nemôžem čerpať v podstate z ničoho čo by som telu dodal, keďže pred treningom sa v proteinovom koktaily rozpúšťa aj Maltodextín (Maltodextrin je vynikajucim zdrojom sacharidov pred a po treningu. Používa sa do pred a po treningovych napojov.Plni podobnu ulohu ako glukoza rozdiel však je že narozdiel od glukozy nema sladkastu chuť (osobne ho najprv necitim vobec a tak po 2 sekundach pride taka pachuť ) ma glykemický index 105 . A štiepi sa na glukozu až v tráviacom trakte. , prave koli tomu sa maltodextrin ku kreatinu nepouziva , nevyvola problemy v zaživacom trakte . 100 g maltodextrinu rovnako ako glukozy ma približne 1800 kj) .,čiže mám to chápať že to je niečo na spôsob glukózy a nie je to nič vhodné pre mňa?

Takisto aj množstvo sacharidov kt. príjmaju je podstatne väčšie ako u bežných ľudí ale zvýšenou fyz. námahou by som to mohol vykompendzovať takže s tým by nema byť problém.

Hej viem že kulturistika a žiadne silové športy nesú vhodné pre diabetikov ,dalej ani cyklistika atd,,,, wed to nam nic neostava?? Akurát tak ping pong Laughing Potom akým športom máme vývijať zvýšenú pohybovú aktivitu ?? A keď už aj sa k nejakmeu rekreačnému športu dostaneme , tak načo nám to bude keď pri ňom neaberem žiadnú svalovú hmotu akurát si znížime hladinu cukru v krvi resp vyrovnáme , teoretický by diabetik musel cvičiť dva krát toľko aby dosiahol rovnaké výsledky ako zdravý človek?? Je to pravda?

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PříspěvekZaslal: čt říjen 22, 2009 12:18 pm    Předmět: Re: Posilovanie a diabetes 1.typu? Citovat

Dobrý den,
je chvályhodné,že nepatříte mezi pasivní diabetiky a snažíte se normálně fungovat.
Pohybová aktivita je velice důležitá součást terapie diabetu.Jak sám píšete,kulturistika není ideální sport pro diabetika,zejména s letitým trváním diabetu a za přítomnosti orgánových komplikací.Hrozí totiž zhoršení stávajících komplikací,progrese retinopatie,nefropatie.Naopak cyklistika,běh,běh na lyžích,v podstatě cokoliv se dá v rozumné míře při diabetu provozovat.
Pohybová aktivita zlepšuje citlivost na insulin,zlepšuje parametry dlouhobé kompenzace i lipidogram.
Nevím na jak vysoké úrovni kulturistiku provozujete,s ohledem na podrobné dotazy na výživu,tuším,že to pro Vás není okrajová záležitost.
Není pravda,že by diabetik nutně musel cvičit 2x více než zdravý.Důležitá je spíše pravidelnost aktivity,ideálně 3-5 x týdně kolem 45 min,myšleno aerobní aktivity.
Pokud je pro Vás kulturitika srdeční záležitost,je vhodné ji ale proložit již zmiňovanou aerobní aktivitou ,protože pozitivní dopad na organismus stran metabolismu má právě jen aerobní aktivita.Vhodné je tedy cvičení doplnit v posilovně třeba rotopedem nebo běhacím pásem.
Jste správně informován,že bílkoviny se v konečném důsledku přemění na cukry.
Nelze Vám zde napsat přesný"muster",jak správně jíst,protože každé tělo reaguje jinak,záleží na intenzitě cvičení a ostatních faktorech.Teoreticky lze předpokládat ,speciální proteiny,pokud správně cvičíte půjdou na svalovou výbavu,bílkoviny se nezapočítávájí do VJ,neměly by ovlivňovat glykémie. negativní dopad by ovšem mohl být na hmotnost,při jejích zvýšení se většinou kompenzace zhoršuje.
Velice dobře je,že se zásobujete během cvičení sacharidy,asi už máte i sám vyzkoušená ,že disacharidy Vám vyhovují a prodleva v štěpení na monosacharidy Vám nedělá hypoglykémie.Obecně byste měl svoji zátěž pokrýt sacharidy,jak krátkými,tak dlouhými,opět ale záleží na Vašem těle,jak je adaptováno,jaké máte glykémie během a po cvičení,potažmo dlouhodobou kompenzaci.
S příjmem bílkovin ,pokud je přijmete ve formě koktejlu,musíte ubrat zase v přirozené formě.Klíčová by pro Vás jako diabetika měla být kompenzace,více méně konstantní hmotnost,svalový potenciál je až na dalších místech.
Pokud jsou přítomny diabetické komplikace,tento typ aktivity bych výrazně redukovala.
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